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Proceedings of the Sixth Annual Convention of the Texas State Association of Architects Held in the Chamber of Commerce, Ft Worth, Jan 20, '91

First Day

Tuesday, Jan, 20, 1891

The regular meeting was called to order at 3 o'clock p.m. by second Vice Prest Geo. E. Dickey, who stated that the executive committee had been in session from 11 o'clock a.m. till 1:30 p.m. and that there was so much work before them that it would be impossible to proceed with the regular order of business until such time as the executive committee could complete their work, and as it did not appear that such would be the case for a considerable [?], the roll would be called, and then an adjournment would be in order.

The members present being Second V. Prest G. E. Dickey, J. Riley Gordon, S. B. Haggar, S. P. Herbert, J. J. Kane, P. S. Rabbitt, M. R. Sanguinet, G. W. Stewart, secretary; Albert Ulrich, Treas; Jas. Wahrenberger, President.

The secretary announced that the following architects had been admitted to membership by the Executive Committee:

C. C. Libell, Dallas; C. A. Gill, Dallas; [?], Dallas;

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A. Messer, Fort Worth;

And the secretary was requested to send telegrams to the newly elected members and some of the other members, requesting their attendance on the following day.

A poilite note was received from the commercial club, extending an invitation to the non-resident and visiting architects to be their guests during their stay in the city. On motion a vote of thanks and acceptance was extended to the club on their [courtesies?].

The Executive Committee withdrew, and there being no quorum it was moved by Haggart, seconded by Herbert that the meeting now adjourn till Wednesday morning

Carried.

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Wednesday - Morning Session

The meeting called to order by Pres. Wahrenberger at 11:05 o'clock, there being presents Messrs. Dickey, Gill, Gordon, Haggart, Hebert, J. J. Kane, Rabitt, Stewart, Ulrich and Wahrenberger.

Hon. member G. J. Redfield, of Galveston was present.

The president opened the proceedings by making a short verbal address.

The minutes of the last annual meeting were read, and on motion approved.

Mr. J. J. Kane, chairman of the Executive Committee, explained that further time would be required before he could present his report, as some paper of great importance

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had been received and required the committee's attention.

Mr. Haggart, a member on a special committee for rules governing competitions read his report.

Mr. Wahrenberger wished to know whether the members would adopt the report, or wished to discuss the same. Question.

Mr. Gordon wished to know whether members of the T. S. A of A. would enter into competition with every arch't whether members of the association or not. He would suggest, as a resolution, the appointment by the President of the association of three architects, who would be paid for their services by the owners or board of directors of such buildings, who would adjudicate on the merits of the drawing, and further that the successful competing architect should be paid six percent for full fees on account of the labor incurred in the original submitted drawing, as well as the new sets of drawings rendered necessary as working plans, elevation sections, etc. The latter would be of necessity an entirely new set.

Mr. Dickey thought that the architects could not well dictate to proprietors what they should do, but that those whose business is alone [that of an?] architect should have the preference at all times over builders in the matter of designl also that members of a chartered association should be preferred to outsiders who look upon

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themselves as clever and important enough without becoming members of a corporate body. Members of an order consult one another and derive benefit from the intercourse, and that the bond of friendship is strength.

Mr Haggart said that his paper was not a motion, only suggestions, as a basis to work on. Mr. McQuirk, his associate on the committee, had done nothing in the matter, and he thought that a new appointment should be made. Mr Wahrenberger recommended that the report be referred back to the Committee, and he would nominate Mr. Dickey as a fit member to detail the requirements, in conjunction with Mr Haggart. Approved.

Mr. Dickey wished to know whether they would enter into competitions without compensation, or on the ideas advanced by Mr Gordon.

Motion - That the report submitted by Haggart on formulating rules under which members will take part in competitions be referred to the executive committee, with addition of Dickey, added for special purpose, and report at this convention. Moved by J. J. Kane seconded by J. R. Gordon. Carried.

Mr. Haggart on special committee said that badges had been made and were in the hands of the secretary. He did the best he could and hoped they were satisfactory. He had consulted Kane, Sanguinet + Stewart in the matter

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The President wished the badge to be the official badge of the assn. Their adoption was moved by Dickey, seconded by Herbert. Carried.

Gordon wished a clause about the [?] law as to whether an architect is an artisan and can claim protection under that law. An architect is first on the building and the last off it, and should be defended.

Mr. Dickey spoke of the new [?] law and its effect and required the use of the word "architect" mentioned in the bill in conjunction with artist, artisan, etc. Does the term "architect" coincide with and mean the same as artist?

Mr. Gordon moved that a committee of one member of the T. S. A. A be appointed to [lurge?] the insertion of the word "architect" in the present [lien?] law. Seconded by Mr. Rabitt. Adopted. Mr. Dickey moved that Mr. Wahrenberger be the member on the aboved Committee. Carried.

The bill before the legislature, viz; an act to regulate the practice of architecture in the state of Tex. Came up for discussion and a motion was made that Mr. Wahrenberger be authorized to use his endeavors to promote the welfare of the present bill before the house, and that he be allowed the necessary means to obtain that end. He could look after it in connection

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with the lien law, and on the same visit. Unanimously adopted

Mr. Gordon spoke of the trouble that is encountered [owing?] to proprietors using architects plans, sometimes without alterations, but generally with slight modifications, paying the contractor to erect such house without employing the arch't or even informing him of the action Mr. J. J. Kane spoke of a case in which the city of Fort Worth wishes to build a fire hall similar in every respect to one already erected in the city, and did not intend paying the architect for using his design.

Mr. Gill cited a similar case in Dallas. The plans were originally prepared by Mr. Bristol and the board thought that they could use them again but at the suggestion of Mr. Gill, who saw the injustice of such a move, the board will either employ Mr. Bristol to prepare a new set at the usual fees or pay him for the presented set.

The meeting adjourned to meet at 3 o'clock.

Afternoon session

Mr. Wahrenberger called the members to order at 3 o'clock

The resolution of the competition committee was presented as follows:

Resolved that no member

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of this associaiton shall offer plans in competition for buildings, unless the building committee or commissioners are fully competent to read correctly the plans or that they employ a disinterested expert.

No member of the association shall offer plans for any building with a contractor or builder or architects outside of the association

The resolution of the competition committee was laid on the table after animated discussion by Gill, Rabitt and Gordon. When Mr Gordon presented an amended resolution to the original resolution as follows: Be it reserved by the T. S. A. A. hereby recommended to all committees contemplating the erection of public buildings the advisability of having one or more professional architects to assist them in the selection of designed therefor.

Be it further resolved that it is beneath the dignity of any practicing architect to compete with builders or other non-professionals for buildings of any character

Question

Mr. Gill inquired what was meant by the word "architect"? Every village carpenter calls himself an architect the building committee would perhaps consider a stone mason more practical than an architect, or a carpenter's knowledge of more importance than either a mason or brick-layer, or even an architect

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Mr. Gordon spoke in favor of his resolution followed by Mr. Sanguinet.

Moved by Mr. Gill, seconded by Sanguinet, that the resolution be adopted.

On motion it was withdrawn.

Mr. Gill objects to the wording of the latter clause of the amendment and moved that it be omitted, [and?] that the resolution now read:

Be it reserved, that the T. S. A. A. hereby recommend to all committies contemplating the erection of public buildings the advisability of having one or more professional architects to assist them in the selection of designs therefor.

A standing vote being called for results in the adoption of the amendment.

Yeas - Ulrich, Gill, Messer + Dickey Nays - Sanguinet, Gordon + Rabitt

Mr. Gordon seconded by Mr. Ulrich presents a resolution as follows:

That, for the advancement of professional intercourse and instruction,

Be it reserved, that each member bring or send to the next and subsequent conventions any drawings, sketches, moulds or other matter of interest to the profession and place the same on exhibition in some sutiable place alloted therefor by the local committee who will take charge of them and return

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then to their rightful owners in good condition, free of cost.

Carried.

The announcement of the sudden death of Mr. J. W. Root, sec'y of the [A. S. A.?], having been made, the following resolution was prepared:

Resolved, that the T. S. A. A. extends to the [A. S. A.?] its heartfelt sympathies in the loss of so valuable a secretary, so true a man and so able an architect as John W. Root, [?].

Resolved, that a copy of this resolution be sent President R. M. Hunt, the bereaved family, and the professional press, adopted by a unanimous vote all the members standing.

At 4:40 it was moved and seconded that the convention adjourn until 7:30 o'clock, in order that the members might avail themselves of the courtesies of Mr. Lunch to visit the foundry and drive around the city generally, also visiting the new brewery in course of erection.

Wednesday - Evening Session

Meeting called to order by President Wahrenberger, at 7:40 o'clock.

The secretary report was read and adopted.

For applications for membership were not accepted.

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The names of W. H. Tyndall, of Galveston, and Geo. E. King, of El Paso, were struck from the roll of membership. A testimonial in the application of J. J. Kane for superintendent of public buildings at Ft Worth was read, as follows:

Whereas we have been informed that our worthy friend and member of T. S. A. A. J. J. Kane has made application for the resident superintendent of construction of the United States gov't about to be erected here at Ft Worth be it

Reserved, that we, the T. S. A. A. hereby heartily endorse the application of Mr. J. J. Kane as honest, competent and trustworthy in every respect, and that we believe Mr. Kane to be an excellent choice for the position

Mr. Gill moved, seconded by Haggart, that the application be endorsed by the T. S. A. A.

Mr. Dickey thought that our effort would be useless with the department, unless the federal superintendent of public buildings would endorse the application.

Political influence would also go a long way in securing the position

Mr. Ulrich understood that there were other members of teh association equally interested in the appointment and that it would

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